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BUG: 3.1.0 DOES NOT RETAIN CHANGES TO TEXT PROPERTY

Last post 11-01-2005, 5:09 PM by hsmith. 20 replies.
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  •  10-06-2005, 9:12 AM 4926

    BUG: 3.1.0 DOES NOT RETAIN CHANGES TO TEXT PROPERTY

    I've read several threads now with people having issues related not getting updates from the 3.1 version of the control, so I thought i would post a new message with the bug in the title.  It seems that something broke in 3.1 where changes to the text arent passed back to the server.  I downgraded to 3.06 and everything started working again (except the deisgner of course... :().
  •  10-06-2005, 6:37 PM 4933 in reply to 4926

    Re: BUG: 3.1.0 DOES NOT RETAIN CHANGES TO TEXT PROPERTY

    I've discover that this problem occurs only when FTB is used in ASP.NET 2 and when is inserted in page that used MasterPage. If you use this component in page that not use MasterPage then it works properly.

  •  10-06-2005, 7:18 PM 4934 in reply to 4933

    Re: BUG: 3.1.0 DOES NOT RETAIN CHANGES TO TEXT PROPERTY

    so problem is not (only) with masterpage but described problems occurs when ftb control is inside some other control which implements INamingContainer
  •  10-07-2005, 2:13 AM 4936 in reply to 4934

    Re: BUG: 3.1.0 DOES NOT RETAIN CHANGES TO TEXT PROPERTY

    I've also had this problem. I am also using Masterpages. Please fix :)
  •  10-07-2005, 4:23 AM 4937 in reply to 4926

    Re: BUG: 3.1.0 DOES NOT RETAIN CHANGES TO TEXT PROPERTY

    Just a note to say I've been in contact with the author, and emailed sample pages showing the bug on master pages and templates.

    Here's hoping for a bugfix soon!

    Howard
  •  10-12-2005, 9:28 AM 4965 in reply to 4937

    Re: BUG: 3.1.0 DOES NOT RETAIN CHANGES TO TEXT PROPERTY

    Alas no fix appears to be coming quickly. Back to a multiline textbox for my users!
  •  10-13-2005, 6:12 AM 4972 in reply to 4926

    Re: BUG: 3.1.0 DOES NOT RETAIN CHANGES TO TEXT PROPERTY

    The same problem... Framework version 1.1, Community Starter Kit application.
    Very sad. I was going to switch to version 3x but looks like we have to rollback to 2x.
  •  10-13-2005, 7:27 AM 4973 in reply to 4926

    Re: BUG: 3.1.0 DOES NOT RETAIN CHANGES TO TEXT PROPERTY

    Hmm, that's it. working with FTB in a usercontrol... just wait. does anyone know when this is fixed?
  •  10-13-2005, 6:54 PM 4980 in reply to 4973

    Re: BUG: 3.1.0 DOES NOT RETAIN CHANGES TO TEXT PROPERTY

    I reverted back to version 3.0.6, and it is working.
  •  10-14-2005, 9:46 AM 4990 in reply to 4965

    Re: BUG: 3.1.0 DOES NOT RETAIN CHANGES TO TEXT PROPERTY

     Quango wrote:
    Alas no fix appears to be coming quickly. Back to a multiline textbox for my users!


    Well if you really need this functionality you can purchase RichTextBox for ~ $199 and it's got tons of features and good support.  I think this is what i'm going to end up doing because I need soemthing more reliable and supported for my project.

    The FreeTextBox is nice, but I personally need something more stable.
  •  10-14-2005, 11:40 PM 4995 in reply to 4926

    Re: BUG: 3.1.0 DOES NOT RETAIN CHANGES TO TEXT PROPERTY

    I am seeing the same issue with DNN 3.1.1. Where you have a box populated on entry to a page (editing something) and when you make the change and hit the update button page validation kicks in and complains indicating that the editor has nothing in it..
  •  10-16-2005, 1:23 PM 5013 in reply to 4990

    Re: BUG: 3.1.0 DOES NOT RETAIN CHANGES TO TEXT PROPERTY

    I'd be happy to buy the full version but only if the bug is fixed in that and it fully supports ASP.NET 2.0 -- however firstly I think the purchase version is 3.0 ? and secondly .net 2005 has not yet been released so it may need revision to work correctly. I've got my eye on buying FTB 4.0 with this in mind.

    I certainly don't want the source code so I can fix the bug -- I haven't got the time to start learning other stuff.
  •  10-17-2005, 10:32 AM 5017 in reply to 5013

    Re: BUG: 3.1.0 DOES NOT RETAIN CHANGES TO TEXT PROPERTY

     Quango wrote:
    I'd be happy to buy the full version but only if the bug is fixed in that and it fully supports ASP.NET 2.0 -- however firstly I think the purchase version is 3.0 ? and secondly .net 2005 has not yet been released so it may need revision to work correctly. I've got my eye on buying FTB 4.0 with this in mind.

    I certainly don't want the source code so I can fix the bug -- I haven't got the time to start learning other stuff.
    i am sure much of the reason the devloper isn't worrying about pushing updates for 2.0 right now is it is scheduled to be released on ~November 7th. There would be no point to pushing the fixes for the beta version when he will more than likely have to make changes for the release version 3 weeks later
  •  10-18-2005, 12:43 PM 5025 in reply to 5017

    Re: BUG: 3.1.0 DOES NOT RETAIN CHANGES TO TEXT PROPERTY

    I don't think that it is likely at this point that there are any significant changes to the underlying architecture and functionality of ASP.NET 2.0. that will affect this control.  ...not impossible but highly unlikely.  ASP.NET 2.0 is in RC form and has been under development for at least 3 years.  It is far more likely that the underlying issues with this control (FTB) have to do with things that will not change in the final version. 

    I also doubt seriously that the author is waiting for the final release before addressing these bugs.  I personally think that 3.0 should not have been released in it's present form.  ...or at least not as 3.0.  Many of us would have been very happy to help debug the control if given the chance.  The fact that it was published as a full version release in its present form creates a credibility problem. 

    Most developers would love to provide new components to be available coincident with the release of a new environment.  Being first to support a new environment after all has many obvious benefits.  There are certainly many other HTML text editors out there for ASP.NET but very few purport to support 2.0.  But there are obviously risks involved as well. 

    I applaud the effort but wish that the author had been more forthcoming about the state of the development. If I'm going to spend my time and effort debugging someone else’s product I expect at least the opportunity of informed consent.  Releasing this product as a full version upgrade designed to work with the ASP.NET 2.0 means that some people may actually purchase it.  This is wrong.  Bill Gates did that to me and a lot of other developers in the early 90's with windows. Microsoft is a lot better at releasing highly functional software now with few bugs at least in the primary areas of functionality

    Since FTB in its simplest for is after all free I expected some problems and don't mind sharing my test results.  But this is clearly beta software and it should not be considered ready for prime time.  This is a full featured and fairly complex control.  Perhaps a better release plan would have been to:  

    1.      Release the product as beta to the general public

    2.      Identify a few knowledgeable users and sign them up to help test.

    3.      Give the beta testers a sandbox to play in and a closed forum to discuss their experience and common  issues.

    4.      Keep the public users well informed on the status of bugs and fixes in progress.

    5.      Release the product only after full regression testing.

    There will always be bugs but they would be minimal and credibility would not be tarnished.  This is not an idealistic solution but simply implements best practices. 


    Ron Cicotte
    Summer Street Systems
  •  10-21-2005, 9:38 AM 5038 in reply to 4926

    Re: BUG: 3.1.0 DOES NOT RETAIN CHANGES TO TEXT PROPERTY

    The problem doesn't seem to be restricted to .NET 2.0. I'm using 1.1 at the moment and have experienced the same problem - both with FTB 3.1.0 and 3.0.6.

    The problem seems to have been lurking 'under the hood' for some time. I've been integrating FTB into a datagrid. That seems to be causing this problem. Get the same problem with 3.0.6

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